Oksana Zabuzhko about the collapse of Russia, the victory of Ukraine

The writer Oksana Zabuzhko is convinced that the victory of Ukraine will lead to the collapse of Russia. According to her definition, the ice caps of world history have floated away – we need to prepare for big changes, which will give Ukraine a very interesting future in this century. We are recording an interview with Oksana Zabuzhko in a library in London – an hour before several dozen people will come to meet her in the reading room lined with books and she will once again tell foreigners about why Ukraine survived this war. Oksana Zabuzhko’s book “The Longest Journey” is about this, in particular, written after the full-scale invasion and already published in seven languages. With Oksana Zabuzhko, we have time to talk about Ukraine after the war, about people’s diplomacy and the volunteer state. And also – we touch on the topic of currently popular chat-bots with artificial intelligence.